Health Care Mobs

Obama said that "We have a lot of work to do to get our country back on track", but perhaps no one expected the spanish inquisition? Or the nazi brown shirts?

Yet this is the inevitable result of the kind of mentality we have in the U.S. The kind of thinking that can get us into a pre-emptive war as revenge against a completely different enemy just because they are also arabic and muslim. The mindset that lets people be proud of being ignorant, while they drink way too many beers and cheer on for the home team.

The media is trying to play the idea that the health care debate has now become a debate over free speech. Funny that it took this long for anyone to notice that we have a problem with free speech here. Where was this media when speaking out against the war made someone a traitor? There has been a lack of rational debate in this country for many years. If you start a discussion on the internet, the comments you receive are just as likely to be abusive nonsense (from "trolls") as rational insight. The television media has devolved into "talking points", and a "discussion" is having two republican pundits, with one seeming to portray the opposition's viewpoint. If anyone with a real opposing viewpoint shows up on the mainstream media, there are always a few others there to shout him down before any meaningful statements can be heard.

It is any wonder that we get the best political information from television news satire?

But to get back to the real point. Health care reform is being attacked. Why? What amazes me is that the people who attack it most vehemently are some of the same people who claim terrific pride in the U.S. and declare themselves as patriots. Yet a look at the facts should give them pause. We are not a country to be proud of when it comes to health care. Unless you are proud of being at about the level of Croatia when it comes to infant mortality. And for that reason alone these same people should be screaming that we do something about it, and not screaming about Obama's birth certificate.

Instead health care reform is being characterized as socialism, which in this country is like saying "red scare" and brings back the fond memory of the good old days when we had a real enemy in the world. Likewise, people are being frightened by the thought of a budget already run amok being made worse by paying for health care for their neighbors and the poor. And finally the capitalists and libertarians are claiming that health care is not the government's business and soon the government will be telling your doctor what to do.

The fringe elements are getting stirred up by the rhetoric. The crazies are running amuck. Maybe it would be best to ignore them or put them in a drunk tank.

But the truth that is being hidden by this, is that we are all paying for health care now. Every time someone fails to pay, goes bankrupt or dies as a result of the negligence and greed of the insurance companies and drug companies we all pay the price. If the government was created to protect us from crime, invasion and theft, why can't it protect us from greed, disease and health risks? Or should community recycling programs just cover the cost of picking up dead bodies from the streets? Surely in this day and age no one complains that the fireman put out a fire in their neighbors home? Should fireman be paid only by the people whose homes and property are destroyed? Doesn't it benefit everyone that they exist? What about police? Libraries? Surely we should be worried about how the government spends our money. Like what happened to the billions sent to Iraq?

It is not hard to solve this problem. All you need to do is look at countries where health care works well and see what they are doing right. If people want to get angry and turn into a mob, then that mob should be demanding that our country live up to being the best, and not a mob demanding that the status remain quo.


It’s funny we hear Republicans say that they do not want “faceless bureaucrats” making medical decisions but they have no problem with “private sector” “faceless bureaucrats” daily declining medical coverage and financially ruining good hard working people. And who says that the “private sector” is always right, do we forget failures like Long-Term Capital, WorldCom, Global Crossing, Enron, Tyco, AIG and Lehman Brothers. Of course the federal government will destroy heathcare by getting involved, Oh but wait, Medicare and Medicaid and our military men and women and the Senate and Congress get the best heathcare in the world, and oh, that’s right, its run by our federal government. I can understand why some may think that the federal government will fail, if you look at the past eight years as a current history, with failures like the financial meltdown and Katrina but the facts is they can and if we support them they will succeed.

How does shouting down to stop the conversation of the healthcare debate at town hall meetings, endears them to anyone. Especially when the organizations that are telling them where to go and what to do and say are Republicans political operatives, not real grassroots. How does shouting someone down or chasing them out like a lynch mob advanced the debate, it does not. So I think the American people will see through all of this and know, like the teabagger, the birthers, these lynch mobs types are just the same, people who have to resort to these tactics because they have no leadership to articulate what they real want. It’s easy to pickup a bus load of people who hate, and that’s all I been seeing, they hate and can’t debate. Too bad.

Dear B,

Guess what! I am one of the crazies, way, way over to the other end of the scale. Quick, quick,

  • Libraries?? It is false that they are "free public" resources. Carnegie used his money to start them and it was foreseen that their financing would get dumped on the public after they got established. Thinking they are "free" misleads small kids. Who then grow up not to be able to buy shelving to upack their books.

  • Firemen? Lots of places in the USA have Volunteer fireman forces. Hooray for American civic spirit!

  • No, I don't want the govenrment to manage disease because half the disease we have in the first place is due to their lousy policies.

  • Plus, it is too the best health care in the world on a whole lot of measures.

Guess whooo?

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

Do you shout down people at town hall meetings by asking for Obama's birth certificate? I think that is what I meant by crazies.

  • Libraries - "buy shelving to unpack their books"? I was never claiming that these things are not paid for somewhere. But I do claim that they are a public benefit and thus it makes sense for us to have libraries, police, fireman, and health care.

  • Volunteer fireman! Hooray for American civic spirit! I'll volunteer to put out a fire, but give my neighbors adequate health care? - fuck 'em.

  • "half the disease we have in the first place is due to their (the government's) lousy policies." What can I say about this statement? I don't want to insult you. Care to back this up somehow?

  • "best health care in the world on a whole lot of measures" Maybe if you have great insurance and are being looked after by Dr. House it is. But I am talking about the public as a whole, and when you look at that way, we as a country should be embarrassed.

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